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A career backup, who Utah coaches identified as “Chris Olave’s” high school QB a little too late, managed to hover over the Utah program like a dark cloud while two of the most successful signal callers in program history were winning championships and setting school records. To think, fans still say “the coaches blew it with Tuttle” when the coaches were saying “if we put him in a real game he would p**s himself.”

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Full disclosure, I am too hammered to know. They have done this to me!

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And…

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Well, I would s**t myself if they jogged out Huard against Houston and slung the rock 40 times out of spread set with Kuithe flexed to flanker. So I think the Imodium stock should remain stable.

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He was on the summer leadership counsel. I can’t remember if he was the first early enrollee that Utah had, certainly the most high profile at the time. Since that time an early enrollee Freshman has always been a representative on the leadership council (which is different than captains and includes reps from each class, the scout team, etc.) As far as the “Canary in the Coal Mine” K. Gunther was unabashed about the hierarchy that existed internally with how different players were treated going back to the Urban era. But honestly, that is a reality in any human organization is it not?

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Any individual could enjoy the wins. Look at the collective. Look at the post on this site after every game for the last 6 years. The wins were never “good enough” and by God the losses, straight self harm watch. It sucks the fun right out of it.

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Winning hasn’t been fun around here since the end of the 2018 season. It has been more about relief. That’s what happens when the fans start worrying about how rather than how many…

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Well… I guess it does?

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With benefit of hindsight that is true. I don’t think anyone outside of the program (honestly it might only be Whit, Risings Camp, the AD, and some high level boosters) really knows what happened in 2023 and at this point it is water under the bridge. What I believe to be true is that Bryson and Nathan were not going to be it regardless. I believe that the coaching staff had a “healthy” Cameron Rising going into 2024 and went out and signed a 4 star HS QB and brought in a highly rated Juco transfer to fill out the room. I also believe had Cam not been thrown into a Gatorade station there is a very real possibility this team is undefeated right now and we are hold our collective breaths every time he drops back to pass. I truly believe this staff did what it needed to do to prepare for post Rising existence in 2025 at a program level. They just were not ready for that post Rising existence to come 2 games into 2024 the season. The long term effects remain to be seen but the short term impact on the field is very real.

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Fair point, we also know they took his “C”, and who knows what level of involvement they wanted. We also don’t know what was said in the players only. Usually in 23′ he was with the other QB’s and this season that was the case also before last night.

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