Holladay Ute

I’m not a troll. I’m a diehard Ute that’s been a season ticket holder for 15 years (for basketball and football). I’m also an active member of the church. I genuinely don’t understand what you’re saying.

If he wasn’t getting paid, he obviously wouldn’t be going there. I don’t think that means the church values winning more than its principles though.

Clark Gilbert didn’t say the university wouldn’t allow pay for play. They obviously had a bunch of NIL deals in place for years before he even made that comment. Per the above, he said that it…[Read more]

I don’t understand your example. What do you mean by standing in the church?

If you’re going to argue that they could/should enforce it, it’s definitely on you to provide an example of how they could do that legally.

I’ve read everything you wrote, but I can’t tell if your issue is w/ NIL in general or if you’re just discriminating against religious institutions. Based on everything you wrote, it sounds like both.

This is way painful. Especially considering how he led us on (the fans, the team, etc.). Hopefully college sports changes something sooner rather than later. It’s pro sports but w/out salary caps, contracts, or a draft. Hard enough for small markets to compete in pro sports w/ those things in place.

Definitely a turn-off to college athletics and the direction it’s heading.

Based on his history on here, Stone is obviously a Ute fan.

I’m confused, what standard are you saying BYU should live up to? You’re saying that b/c they’re a religious organization, they should live by the following standards?
– That they shouldn’t allow their athletes to receive NIL deals from third party donors?
– And that, by allowing…[Read more]

This is a great comment. Thanks.

The BYU fan’s comments were lame and uncalled for.

You clearly have very strong opinions about the church and economics/politics (and I have no problem w/ that).

I am an active member of the church and a diehard Ute (that hopes BYU loses every game in every sport)…as is Taylor Randall, Kyle Whittingham, Morgan Scalley, a bunch of our players,…[Read more]

How would you (and the rest of the BYU fan base) feel if we all got on Cougarboard and said stuff like this? In a passive aggressive way, you’re essentially rubbing this in our faces on our own website. Totally lame.

I agree, not a comment to get worked up over or be offended about. Making fun of a certain group of people is how it came across to me initially (which I didn’t appreciate), but I shouldn’t assume that was the intention. And even if that was the intention, whatever.

Not a fan of this comment.

Haha, very fair point. I fully accept that others (including you) were right (and I was wrong) earlier in the season when they were pessimistic (and I was more optimistic). I did not see us going on such a grueling and painful losing streak. And I do think Whitt deserves criticism after the last two seasons.

Part of what I’m saying here though…[Read more]

He had this title years ago…and then they took it away for good reason. At the peak of cancel culture in the USA (2020), most programs would have fired him and moved on. Utah stuck w/ him. They reinstated that title less than six months ago. I’d be way surprised if he wasn’t fine w/ the current timeline and situation.

This is true. Whitt said that he might be able to come back. Kenan Johnson too.

As I said in the other thread…he knows our offense will be so good that he’ll never have any opportunities to punt!

Similar take to Miami. I went w/ 3 stars. I think Beck is promising (and as good as we could’ve gotten), but I don’t think we know enough (or have seen enough) to go any higher. I’m encouraged by what he’s done at where he’s been. I’m very intrigued by the strong run game New Mexico generated (this is a part of Utah’s identity / formula for…[Read more]

I wish people on here were generally more optimistic about things. I feel like most people (or at least the loudest voices) tend to be chronically half glass empty. And although I like to have all perspectives to inform my own perspective, I wish there was a little more hopeful commentary here. It’s good to have the reality checks and sometimes…[Read more]

Gundy won them the Fiesta Bowl a few years ago.

The reasons why I think it’d be more reasonable to fire Gundy versus Whitt: We had a really bad year, but they had a REALLY bad year. We were 5-7 and all our losses were arguably competitive/close. They were 3-9 and got blown out a bunch of times. Their players quit on the season. Ours didn’t.…[Read more]