[Jim McMahon]

I like the way you think

[Jim McMahon]

We have gotten all the bounces this season. We could very easily be sitting on three more losses right now. It just felt like we were going to win because that’s how the season has gone, but the magic ran out.

Still everything to play for this weekend, but ASU suddenly looks very good, and they are playing for the CCG as well, so we will definitely get their best shot.

[Jim McMahon]

In all seriousness, I joined Utehub to share some views from a BYU fan perspective. I thought I would get ripped to shreds, but you all have been pretty cool. There are several Ute posters on CB I really respect and who are good dudes. I’ve said multiple times that my BIL played for the U and he’s an incredible dude. I don’t hate Utah.

I partially donated because I wanted to demonstrate that as much as many of you hate BYU fans, we’re not all idiots. I think so much of the vitriol is the vocal minority (on both sides), doing/saying dumb things. Then that gets blasted into our echo chambers and we start to believe that “all BYU / Utah fans must be that way”. It’s just like politics.

I know the rivalry will never be civil because, duh, it’s a rivalry for a reason. But it has gotten too toxic.

Anyway, thanks for letting me be here to share my views. You guys have a great site and I respect that you are pretty honest about your own team, and you listen to differing views. It’s pretty cool.

Good luck against the Buffs.

[Jim McMahon]

Haha. Not sure how I feel about this title. But thank you, I guess.

[Jim McMahon]

You run a great site and I think it’s pretty cool that you do this all on your own.

Also, there’s enough animosity in our rivalry, but at the end of the day we have way more in common than what school we cheer for.

Keep up the good work.

[Jim McMahon]

To be fair, he is an equal opportunity troll. We hate him on CB too.

[Jim McMahon]

I got a good laugh from that

[Jim McMahon]

Really good analysis

[Jim McMahon]

I think that’s fair and I’m not disputing that. The timing of this call is awful. And I agree and recognize that I would be equally angry if I were in your shoes. But I am also guessing that if the roles were reversed, you would likely be defending the call if it led your team to making the game-winning drive. I can’t prove that, but I’m guessing that’s the case.

I was simply disputing the notion that this was a non-event. I had seen many posts on X saying that this was a routine play that takes place about 100 times a game between cornerback and receiver, and that just simply is not true. That’s the only argument I was making.

[Jim McMahon]

I think you’re probably right. I look at the video and as a clearly biased BYU fan, I see Jake look to Jojo and see him stumbling. He then looks to his next read and it’s over.

I also agree that even if Jojo had created separation here it likely would have been a tough throw with the safety over the top.

So from that standpoint, it was very likely game over regardless, so that absolutely sucks for your team that played lights out defense on that series.

And I also fully recognize the hypocrisy in being a fan. I totally get the injustice of this call in that moment from your vantage point, and I would feel the same way.

I was simply making the argument to the Ute fans I had heard saying this was a routine play. From this angle, it looks like a really blatant hold to me. And unfortunately for you guys, this is the angle the ref had who threw the flag. It’s honestly bad luck. But again, it absolutely sucks to make that call in that moment and I can’t argue with that.

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