[Jim McMahon]

I get that many of you hate the B12 but Yormark has actually been an awesome and very astute commissioner.

He is playing with house money with how he got the TV deal before the Pac 12 two years ago and basically made that conference collapse, allowing him to poach the four corner schools.

In regards to the holy war, us BYU fans would also love it to be the last game of the year, but he scheduled it for when he did hoping that it would draw more eyeballs without having to compete with all the other major games this week. Unfortunately, it was a very late start so it didn’t really matter.

Hopefully it is moved to the final game of the season in years to come, where it should be.

Why do you hate him?

[Jim McMahon]

We play too. It sucks. Hopefully they fix it.

[Jim McMahon]

The B12 lost Texas and Oklahoma and survived with lesser brands than the P12 would have been without USC. Give Yormark credit for outmaneuvering Kliakaff.

And I agree, the P12 has been mismanaged. But one of its biggest issues has been fan apathy. Cal, Stanford, and UCLA barely have fans at games. Its embarrassing. The B12 has survived because even though it’s a “truck stop” conference, it has passionate fan bases.

[Jim McMahon]

So much sour grapes on here haha.

[Jim McMahon]

Here’s a better article on it.

Kliavkaff was a dope and overestimated. Even if the Pac 12 lost USC, Oregon, Washington, and UCLA, if it would have secured a TV deal first, it could have collapsed the big 12 and then poached the best remaining teams from there. The survivors of the Pac 12 and a few big 12 schools would have been a better conference than the current B12 from a pure brand perspective.

Yormark was one step ahead and cut in line and secured a deal for stability. I get that you guys hate this conference, but he has actually been an awesome commissioner by destroying the remnants of your conference and keeping the big 12 intact.

https://www.latimes.com/sports/story/2023-08-16/pac-12-collapse-decisions-realignment-ucla-oregon#:~:text=The%20Pac%2D12’s%20math%20said,Ten%20for%20breaking%20its%20agreement.

[Jim McMahon]

He definitely accelerated it. The conference may have always collapsed anyway, but he cut in line to secure a TV deal that sealed its fate.

https://www.si.com/college/usc/football/big-12-totally-out-maneuvered-pac-12-by-getting-early-media-right-deal-done

[Jim McMahon]

I like the way you think

[Jim McMahon]

We have gotten all the bounces this season. We could very easily be sitting on three more losses right now. It just felt like we were going to win because that’s how the season has gone, but the magic ran out.

Still everything to play for this weekend, but ASU suddenly looks very good, and they are playing for the CCG as well, so we will definitely get their best shot.

[Jim McMahon]

In all seriousness, I joined Utehub to share some views from a BYU fan perspective. I thought I would get ripped to shreds, but you all have been pretty cool. There are several Ute posters on CB I really respect and who are good dudes. I’ve said multiple times that my BIL played for the U and he’s an incredible dude. I don’t hate Utah.

I partially donated because I wanted to demonstrate that as much as many of you hate BYU fans, we’re not all idiots. I think so much of the vitriol is the vocal minority (on both sides), doing/saying dumb things. Then that gets blasted into our echo chambers and we start to believe that “all BYU / Utah fans must be that way”. It’s just like politics.

I know the rivalry will never be civil because, duh, it’s a rivalry for a reason. But it has gotten too toxic.

Anyway, thanks for letting me be here to share my views. You guys have a great site and I respect that you are pretty honest about your own team, and you listen to differing views. It’s pretty cool.

Good luck against the Buffs.

[Jim McMahon]

Haha. Not sure how I feel about this title. But thank you, I guess.

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