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Next week Tuesday
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krindorParticipant
Next week Tuesday
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Duplicate Post. Removed
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Here’s why the extra money to go to BYU isn’t as obvious a choice as you might think
Last 20 years of Utah DBs (i.e. Snowden’s lifetime)
- Eric Weddle, 2nd Round Pick, 14 years, 5x All-Pro, 6x Pro Bowl, 115 AV
- Sean Smith, 2nd Round Pick, 9 years, 47 AV
- Brice McCain, 6th Round Pick, 9 years, 21 AV
- Robert Johnson, 5th Round Pick, 2 years, 2 AV
- R.J. Stanford, 7th Round Pick, 4 years, 4 AV
- Brandon Burton, 5th Round Pick, 4 years, 1 AV
- Keith McGill, 4th Round Pick, 4 years, 4 AV
- Eric Rowe, 2nd Round Pick, 9 years, 24 AV
- Dominique Hatfield, UDFA, 2 years, 1 AV
- Marcus Williams, 2nd Round Pick, 8+ years, 39+ AV
- Brian Allen, 5th Round Pick, 4 years, 1 AV
- Marquise Blair, 2nd Round Pick, 4 years, 2 AV
- Jaylon Johnson, 2nd Round Pick, 5+ years, 1x+ All-Pro, 2x+ Pro Bowl, 31+ AV
- Julian Blackmon, 3rd Round Pick, 5+ years, 22+ AV
- Terrell Burgess, 3rd Round Pick, 4 years, 3 AV
- Javelin Guidry, UDFA, 3 years, 2 AV
- Clark Phillips, 4th Round Pick, 2+ years, 4+ AV
- Cole Bishop, 2nd Round Pick, 1+ years, 2+ AV
- Sione Vaki, 4th Round Pick, 1+ years, 1+ AV
And BYU’s last 20 years
- Dan Sorensen, UDFA, 10 years, 23 AV
- Kai Nacua, UDFA, 3 years, 2 AV
- Michael Davis, UDFA, 8+ years, 28+ AV
- Zayne Anderson, UDFA, 4+ years, 2+ AV
Now to their credit, several undrafted BYU DBs have done well, but Utah has a MUCH stronger history at the position. You have to go back to 1993 to find the last time a BYU DB was drafted.
There’s definitely positions where I’d be more inclined to trust BYU’s development. DB is most definitely not one of them. Even with Hill there, not until I see it. If it’s about my career, I’m going to trust proven results over strong hopes
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At this point, I’m expecting some WR transfers out in the spring. Right now, Utah has a lot of WR who are coming in with the appeal of available playing time. But at spring practice some are going to stand out and others will fall behind. And there’s no way to get all of them the opportunity they want
Z Williams, Zip, D Washington, Buchanan, Calderella, N Johnson, Stevenson, Whittimore, Tia, Davis, possibly Singer and others …
Someone is going to get buried lower on the depth chart than they’d like. And a lot of these guys came in wanting to play, so if they’re WR8, they may well look elsewhere to get more opportunities.
Which is fine, we’re right now giving a lot of guys a chance and seeing who stands out
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Honestly, as someone who has feet in both Utah and BYU fandom, I mostly just feel bad for the kid
He was building a legacy and meaning at Utah. And then he left it for the promise of short term monetary gain. And with that he’s given up the feeling of being able to come back beloved anywhere in 20 years as a returning hero….which is worth more
I don’t know that I can hate him for it – money can be enticing and I can’t say I wouldn’t have done the same. He has my pity and sympathy more than my anger
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krindorParticipant
There’s a bunch of smoke on Bear Tenney (TE) who is a 2025 HS recruit. I’m guessing it is him
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krindorParticipant
lost both its starting corners to the portal?
This is Scooby Davis erasure
To open last season, the starting corners were Zemaiah Vaughn and Kenan Johnson with Snowden as the nickelback.
After Johnson went down with the injury, it was Vaughn on one side with Scooby Davis and Cam Calhoun alternating on the other side. But more starts for Davis. And then Snowden as the nickelback.
End of last season, the thought process was the Davis and Calhoun would be the starters this season, with Snowden as the nickelback.
After Calhoun transferred, that shifted to Davis and a newbie (maybe Cotton) with Snowden as the nickelback. Or possible Snowden on the outside and Shemwell on the inside
But at no point has Utah had Johnson and Calhoun as the two starters
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Honestly, he’s probably a depth play and for the future. He’s probably not ready yet, butif/when Fano declares after this year, it’ll be nice to have someone ready to slide in
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There were hints dropped elsewhere that it’s a QB who left the program more recently than Nate Johnson or Bryson Barnes or Mack Howard….
which means there’s only three potential options
1. Cam Rising: Could see this, that he comes back for another year. Think someone here mentioned his locker was set back up
2. Isaac Wilson: I’ve heard a few mention here that he’s more likely to return than was initially anticipated. Given his injury, he may not be getting the interest he’d like
3. Brandon Rose: Haven’t heard anything, but he’s stuck around through tough times before, so not an impossibility
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