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ParticipantI can’t remember the game/team, but several years ago, Utah was on the other end of this – constantly running low on the play clock and risking delay of game penalties because the other team would sub a big D line player after Utah made a sub.
Nice to see that we have learned to use the rule in our favor.
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Probably – but that’s a huge gap to give a running QB like Williams and then Reid and Vaki just trip over each other and Broughton stumbles w/o much contact and waves his arms at Williams crossing the end zone. The more I look at it the more I think we baited him into running up the middle and then let him score.
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On the Pittman hit, the way the rule is written now it’s only targeting if it’s crown of the helmet OR a non-crown blow to head of a “defenseless” player. It definitely wasn’t crown of the helmet. He did seem pretty defenseless to me, but it’s a judgement call I guess.
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“garish display of badassery” seems like a solid team motto.
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It would be a mess. Multiple team tiebreak rules:
rule#1– “Head-to-head (best cumulative win percentage in games among the tied teams). If not every tied team has played each other, go to step 2.”
-Not every team has played each other so skip.
rule#2 – “Win percentage against all common conference opponents (must be common among all teams involved in the tie)”
If I looked correctly, there are only 3 common opponents for these 5 teams – Arizona, Stanford, and Colorado. UCLA would be 2-1, the other 4 would be 3-0. I think this means we just skip to rule#3 but maybe UCLA would be eliminated here?
rule#3 – “Record against the next highest placed common opponent in the standings (based on record in all games played within the conference), proceeding through the standings.”
– In a 5 way tie this is too complicated for me to figure out, but because Utah and USC would have perfect records vs. the next tier of teams (OSU,WSU,AZ,ASU) maybe they get chosen at this step – at the very least I doubt Utah and USC would be eliminated here.
If it has to keep going at this point:
rule #4 – “Combined win percentage in conference games of conference opponents (ie, strength of conference schedule)”
– I think UCLA needs to get this far to get in. They seem to have played the toughest conf. schedule. UCLA missed WSU,OSU. I think they would be #1 here and Utah probably #2, but that’s just a guess. UU missed UW,Cal; USC missed UW,UO; UO missed USC, ASU; UW missed USC, UU.
rule #5 – “Highest ranking by SportSource Analytics (team Rating Score metric) following the last weekend of regular-season games.”
– I assume it would end here if it goes this far. Could be good or bad for Utah. The respect we’re getting in the rating systems may help but the late loss to Oregon and UCLA’s win over USC would make me nervous.
rule #6 – “Coin toss”
– This would suck – unless it didn’t
Please find my mistakes.
Just gotta beat the Ducks!
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never mind. beat me to it with a better link
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According to this he grew up LDS and got a BA from BYU before grad school at Pepperdine.
https://www.thefocus.news/sports/was-mike-leach-a-mormon-late-football-coach-was-considered-a-jack/
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I do think it’s ridiculous that Utah would be the 2 seed after beating the other two tied teams, though. They should add a step at the top of the 3 way tie procedure that says that if one team has beaten the other two, they get the 1 seed. (not that seeding really matters for the champ game, but….)
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The confusion is that the Pac-12 website says this (my emphasis added):
“Multiple-Team Ties:
The following procedures will only be used to eliminate all but two teams, at which point the two-team tie-breaking procedure will be applied.
- Head-to-head (Best record in games among the tied teams).
- Record in games played within the division.
- Record against the next highest placed team in the division (based on record in all games played within the conference), proceeding through the division.
- Record in common conference games.
- Highest ranking by SportSource Analytics Following the last weekend of regular-season games.”
So, do they really follow this and ONLY use it to eliminate one team and then do head to head from there, or do they look at #2 and give it to WSU due to their higher record in division? I think WSU would deserve it in this scenario, but if they follow the letter of the rule it’s not that simple.
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