Roy Rangum
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This might sound dumb, but I was pretty ok with the blowouts. The whole point of a playoff is to prove on the field / court who is the actual best. A lot of those teams that got blown out were teams that a lot of people thought were pretty good. But now we know with a surety, those teams weren’t really all that close compared to the teams above them. And now we get a chance to do it again in the next round (and I won’t be surprised if ASU and Boise State similarly get whooped). With 12 teams, you eliminate the coulda woulda shoulda, and you get to prove who were the pretenders and who were the contenders.
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Mom wants Calhoun to be here as long as the price is right.
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There’s no doubt been some toxicity on this team this year. By all accounts, Isaac Wilson was a part of that.
That said, I keep hearing tidbits and rumors that the most toxic presence on this team is Whittingham right now. I’m not sure if everything I’m hearing is true or accurate (and maybe it’s all coming from one disgruntled person), but if it is true, it feels like Whittingham will go from Utah football hero to villain pretty quickly if it all comes out.
That said – winning solves everything. If they can win games next year, I don’t think anyone will care. But if we have another season like this year next year, I feel like the floodgates will open up with negative Whittingham stories.
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BYUFAN: I appreciate the additional insights. Congrats on landing the #1 recruit. That is huge. With all the support, hires, and recruits BYU has had recently, I fully expect BYU basketball to be a national powerhouse.
To answer your questions: it’s been said a few times already, we’re not angry as much as we are jealous. We would love to have what you’ve got going on. Although Elder’s Gilbert’s comments about pay to play was not a good look, as BYU is absolutely participating in pay to play the same as everyone else (and it comes off as holier than thou to pretend you’re not).
And, of course Utah has some advantages in being a state institution. BYU has some advantages in being a private institution too. But it’s not a great look to come to a rivals fan board to complain about said advantages and disadvantages.
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Roboute: That’s not a BYU rumor, that’s what I’ve heard from die hard Ute fans that are close to the program. While I don’t know anything for certain, based on what I’ve heard, I fully believe it’s true that Whitt’s presence made it more difficult to find a new OC.
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“proof of something unproveable”
So blowing another team out is not proof that you are a better team, because it was a home game?
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I think a solution to this is to create a window during which NIL deals can be made / signed, and to make that window happen before the transfer portal opens.
While I’m sure there will still be some under the table deals happening, I would bet a lot of teams would be hesitant to throw money at a player if they aren’t sure that player will come (and / or is a player that technically they aren’t supposed to be recruiting).
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Very fair point. However, I would counter that his job right now is to entertain fans. (As that is the ultimate source of all money in athletics.) It’s certainly within his right to try and get more money from a different fan base, but he shouldn’t be surprised if how he’s doing it turns his current fan base against him.
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Assistant TO THE manager
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Miami: Problem is, trust in Whittingham to fix our offense is at an all time low for me. The only way I think we field a decent offense is if Beck can bring some players with him and / or pull a few good recruits (which it’s yet to be seen IMO how well Beck can recruit at this level, and / or how well his current players abilities will transfer to the higher level, if we can get them to come.)
So while I hope Beck will be the answer we’re praying for on offense, there are also a lot of unknowns there too. And even if Beck is a great coordinator, at minimum he’s being handicapped in multiple ways (starting with a bare cupboard and having to be under Whitt). Our offense might be better next year, but it feels like there is a decent chance it won’t be.
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