SkinyUte

Could you elaborate? I’m just not sure which financial incentives you’re referring to.

A significant part of “enforcing the existing laws” would mean enforcing those laws against employers who employ illegal labor.

Funny how that’s always such a non-starter in this discussion.

How does airport screening factor in when someone comes here on a legit work visa and overstays it?

How does airport screening factor in when someone comes here on a work visa and overstays it?

Two thoughts:

1. $21 billion is just the initial cost to build, and likely a very low estimate at that (I.e. doesn’t include building over mountain terrain). The maintenance costs would be huge as well. Just the current fence costs $274 million per year to maintain. Estimates for wall maintenance run anywhere from $500-$750 million per year,…[Read more]

Two thoughts:

1. $21 billion is just the initial cost to build, and likely a very low estimate at that (I.e. doesn’t include building over mountain terrain). The maintenance costs would be huge as well. Just the current fence costs $274 million per year to maintain. Estimates for wall maintenance run anywhere from $500-$700 million per year,…[Read more]

Guess it’s good to know that at least someone is enjoying Trump’s three-ring-circus.

Awfully touchy, aren’t we?

I didn’t see where Utah made any assessment of the Democratic party (which is also a mess, in many regards). He merely stated an opinion on the GOP, one which many tend to agree with.

^^ What he said, and I’ve read a number of sites that say that estimate might actually be a bit low.

How about a path to legal immigration to make these people citizens and contributors to the tax base?
How about cracking down on the employers who use undocumented immigrant labor?

There’s lots of things that can be done outside of a $20 billion…[Read more]

I thought that was always a given.

Jesus. I hope that’s not entirely true, but have a sneaking suspicion it is.

I suspect she likely owns UFN now as well.

That certainly cuts both ways.

Especially since every time Christianity is criticized for their “crappy ideas” (zeous’ term), then we hear an endless feedback loop about how Christians are “under attack” and that their values and beliefs (which are more often than not rooted in discrimination towards anyone who believes differently) require…[Read more]

That certainly cuts both ways.

Especially since every time Christianity is criticized for their crappy ideas, then we hear an endless feedback loop about how Christians are “under attack” and that their values and beliefs (which are more often than not rooted in discrimination towards anyone who believes differently) require protection in the…[Read more]

That certainly cuts both ways.

Especially since every time Christianity is criticized for their crappy ideas, then we hear an endless feedback about how Christians are “under attack” and that their values and beliefs (which are more often than not discriminatory towards anyone who believes differently) require protection in the form of being…[Read more]

I don’t think so, and I actually like it that way. Eliminates some of the potential animosity, especially when there are “stalkers” who will downvote posts regardless of content and solely based on who the poster is.

Good luck with that.

Therein lies the problem with the current tone of criticism. Muslim =! terrorist, yet that’s more often than not the starting paradigm for any dialog. I think we could all agree that assumption would immediately put people within that group on the defensive. Same thing applies the other way, not all Christians are bigots.

If we can we start…[Read more]

Thanks.

Again, just for clarification. Your position is that we (“we” defined as liberals/progressives, I assume) are collectively accepting of Sharia Law overtaking the US Constitution as the overarching rule of law in the US. Correct?

Conservatives demonize Islam, liberals push back.
Liberals demonize Christians, conservatives push back.

What’s the difference?

You keep tossing out accusations of fearfulness, while having fully submitted to the wishes of the political entity making moves against your culture.

I know I’m going to regret asking this, but am hoping you can clarify. Which political entity, what “moves”, and which “culture” are you talking about?