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It’s time to move on. He can’t stay healthy and can’t be relied upon.

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I’ll just post something similar to what I did in the other thread discussing it. Let me preface this by saying I’m not LDS.

I think BYU is playing by the rules that have been laid out by the NCAA. You have no arguments from me there. I wish we had a Ryan Smith bankrolling a lot of these big dollar moves, or a Phil Knight.

The issue here…. I’m trying to take my bias as much as I can out of the conversation. So I would argue that BYU is a representation of the LDS Faith. I don’t think there’s an argument they aren’t. Now, here’s where it gets a little morally questionable if you’re a religious institution. Whether it’s the institution itself or boosters, it’s not a great look going out and potentially paying any player millions of dollars just to play for your university. In the grand scheme of things, sports should be almost a complete afterthought for a religious institution. When you’re talking about paying a basketball player potentially 4.5 million dollars even as a booster, an outside observer might say cynically, it’s good that they have their priorities straight with everything happening in the world currently…. Even if it’s not BYU paying the player, you can see how that would cast the religion in a bad light. Especially when at the end of the day, basketball, football, or any other sport are just silly games when compared to the actual religion’s stated purpose. So even if they believe it’s good that their sports spread the faith and or awareness of the faith, there’s going to be some negativity around spreading that too if that kind of money is being spent on sports and not actual charitable ventures. Somebody like Smith or a BYU fan might argue I can do both…. To some extent, sure. You’re still giving a basketball player 4.5 million that you could’ve added to a charitable donation total. It’s really just a bad look.

Anyway, just my 2 cents.

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He was good last season. Looks lost this season and looks like he’s lost a step and athleticism after the injury.

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Yeah, I remember reading all the time how difficult his offense was to grasp and that being the reason that certain players weren’t seeing the field etc. I guess that’s fine if you’re one of the best offenses in college football year in and out, but it just seemed kind of ridiculous to me. If guys are good enough to play but it takes them a full year to learn the offense, that’s not a benefit. Anyway, I’m looking forward to a new OC.

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I think it was honestly just a recruiting miss. It happens. We’re known for it honestly with Tuttle and Costelli being in our recent past along with Nate Johnson from that same Rose class. I’m a real believer Isaac will continue to improve though.

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I really have no opinion on what will or will not happen. What I do wonder is if Ryan Smith keeps putting his finger on the scales, will Utah fans decide to stop supporting the Jazz and the new hockey team? To be clear, I’m not advocating for that. I am just wondering about other fans opinions on the matter. I read an article directly related to this NIL tweet with the same question.

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If Whitt’s staying, it will be his decision and his decision alone whether we like that or not. Morgan might be able to give some advice or input, but it’s still Whitt’s show. Whether we like that or not in terms of the hire.

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Nobody is arguing they shouldn’t be able to do what they want with their money. Again, it’s a bad look whether it’s BYU or one of their boosters paying big money for a player of any sport. Because as an outsider looking in at the faith you’re going to be cynical. Regardless if the institution is putting up the money or not, there’s a connection to the University and the negative appearance that they’re spending a lot of money on something that shouldn’t be very important to a religious institution, which is sports. So I stand by my original post. It’s legal and, nothing nefarious is happening according to the rules, it just really looks bad. I think that’s why the article came out regarding the position of the church on it.

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There is nothing wrong in context to the rules that have been laid out. Certainly. Is it morally a good look for them or fans that support them to be going out spending millions of dollars to essentially buy players, etc, when they’re a religious institution? This is where you can kind of understand the negativity surrounding it. 4.5 million could be spent on worthier causes than to bring in a basketball player. Now, people will argue that if BYU is good athletically, it sort of advertises for the LDS religion in general. Won’t there be some negativity in that advertisement though too with the kind of money being spent on things that in the grand scheme of everything boils down to just being a silly game?

I don’t have the right answer, but it’s not as simple as they’re playing by the rules, so who cares?

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I wonder if the lacerated kidney he suffered impacted him mentally. I’m not saying he all of a sudden got the yips or anything, but to go from being thought of that highly to not being QB2 over a true freshman…. Then not transferring out…. Makes you wonder.

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